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Thursday, July 09, 2009

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Asianmommy

My kids have English first names, my maiden name as their middle name, and my husband's last name as their last name. It works for us, reflecting a part of him, a part of me, and a part of their American upbringing.

Julie Kang

I, too, faced some resistance from my parents when I brought the exact same idea up with them for the first time. Turns out my dad had to ask his older brother (the oldest son of the family) for permission to name my son according to the genealogical pattern, even though the baby would be born to a daughter and the father wasn't Korean. Luckily, my kunappa agreed, so Isaac Yujin it was (my name is also English first, Korean middle). Since my second child was the first girl of her generation we got to choose the root ourselves, and we came up with Yumi so the two kids are connected.

Both kids have their father's American last name. I figured it was a fair trade-off, even though I kept my Korean last name.

Xibee

My husband was given the same kind of pause just recently. His American name was bestowed upon him arbitrarily by a nun when he attended a Catholic gradeschool in Korea. Most of his Korean friends used his Korean name, but he started using the American one on arrival in the States.

When he became an American citizen, the chance was offered up again: You can change your name if you wish. Do you want to? And to what? It didn't have to be the nun's appointed name anymore. But what was wrong with his Korean name? He asked me: Should I change my name?

What finally decided his question was the one-part problem which arose all the time on documents: American databases have no way to describe Korean names properly, which is a problem for Koreans. Korean names are not hyphenated like Chinese two-part first names. They are spaced separately, but used in tandem. Unfortunately no databases in the U.S. seem to be able to handle having a two-part name WITHOUT the hyphen. We'd receive mail for "Ji" instead of his whole name. It rankled him.

I mentioned the hyphen to him once: "I'm NOT CHINESE!" he roared. And running the two words of his particular name together made white folks' eyes seem to cross. "Ummmm.... how's that?"

So ultimately he chose to make it an English name (the nun's name, slightly changed), followed by his whole Korean name, two parts run together. At least we wouldn't get wacked looking mail and people calling him Ji. And I think, for him, he liked shedding just a little Koreanness in becoming a new citizen. Holding on to each, but with a new view.

hapa mama too

have you looked into bicultural names that are average/common names in both cultures? That is what we did for both of our kids. The only difference in pronunciation in both languages is that DS's first name is pronounced slightly different because of the way the "o" is pronounced in the name by different sets of grandparents. That worked for us. Kids respond to both names and i think they kind of like having both if a smile indicates this when either name is used. DS's middle name is definitely of European decent since it is my dad and grandfather's first name. DD's middle name is her Korean given name chosen by her birth mom. So in some ways, there names show their history and honor both sides of the family and DD's birth mom.

eingy

Xibee, I'm Korean American and my name is spelled Ei-Nyung. I had no idea anyone had an association with using a hyphen and Chinese names. I in fact put in the hyphen myself because I was sick of people thinking Ei was my first name and Nyung was my middle name. I have several Korean American friends who use a hyphen in their names: Young-Hye, Rye-Jin, etc. I am totally befuddled by your husband's reaction to hyphenating... I had never heard that before. Maybe that wasn't a common association where I grew up (NY and Philly) but was where your husband did?

ohm_ma

My mother hyphenates her name, my father doesn't (and in fact, on documents, lists the first syllable as a first name and the second syllable as his middle name, and also sometimes just signs things as "Chul"). For myself and my brother, our Korean names are run together.

My parents originally put our names on our birth certificates with Korean name first and "American" name as the middle name. My brother legally changed his name to reverse it (while we were in high school, with my parents' blessing). I modified my Korean name to make it more "American", since the way my parents spelled it, no one could pronounce it. And it was difficult for non-Korean-speakers to pronounce (I still don't understand why). Ironically, even though there are famous people who share my name, people still can't spell it and some people have a hard time pronouncing it.

Before I changed the spelling of my name, I went by my middle name. Now, when I tell people what that is and that I used to go by it, I get a lot of people saying "but that doesn't seem like it fits you".

We gave our daughter a French first name, a Hindi first middle name, a Korean second middle name, and a double-barreled last name. The order was just because we liked the sound of it together the best. French because we met in Paris, Hindi because I loved the name, and Korean because I really want her to have that. My last name is the second part of her last name, and my husband agrees that in casual use, she can just have the last name "Kim".

Do what feels right to you. If you want your son to have a Korean name, do it. If you're only doing it because you feel like you have to, well, think on it and determine why. He'll eventually choose what he likes, which name he identifies with.

Sunny

Do you like any of the names that can be managed in both English and Korean? RuBin, Philbin, Jason, Eugene (Yoo-Jin..it might be a girl name in Korean though)come to mind.

HCG

Hannah, Aram, Gina, Mina...those can be both Korean and English names.

Do both names. If only to give your son the the choice and tools to define himself.

My husband's parents did not give him a Chinese name and he never got the straight answer on "what" his mom was when he was younger. And he's never felt 'Chinese' despite their attempts to brainwashing, because my husband is not just bicultural but multicultural. After the process we went through to procure our son's name (the Korean version of my husband's last name run through a namemaker), he felt emboldened enough to contemplate a Chinese name for himself.

suzy nam

Shinyun, this was a great post. Thanks for articulating so gracefully something that we all deal with. :-) My favorite line:

Appreciating the loneliness that seemed to hover over us at times.

The great news is that our children will have so much more of the coolness and strength that comes from being different and so much less of the embarrassment and awkwardness.

Nina

Lovely post, Shinyung.

We gave our kids "American" first names and Korean middle names. Since neither of us are fluent Korean speakers, Korean names don't have as much personal meaning to us as the American names we picked. We loved the way they sounded, their meanings and history. But their Korean names were chosen by their paternal grandparents, in keeping with their family's naming tradition and I love how those names tie them to that history and to the culture of both our families.

As an aside, I don't think that Koreans exclusively use a space between the syllables of their first name. Most of my friends, my boys' middle names, even my mother's Korean name are spelled as one word, no hyphen, no space (i.e. Jihyun). I know Koreans that have a hyphen in their name and others that do spell it with a space, which does in fact make them usually become known by only the first syllable. Which would be annoying, I think.

Linda Yoon

Nice and poignant post...it made me think of my own "naming" experience:

I was born in Seoul, and my parents named me Sohee. When my mom was enrolling me in school here in the United States, she asked me, "What do you want your American name to be? Lisa or Laurie?" I responded, "Linda! Linda!" I was a huge fan of Wonder Woman at the time, and Lynda Carter was my idol (I was about 4 years old). Turns out that neither me or my mom knew that she spelled her name with a "y"!

Well, now I am a new mom to a 50% Korean (my half!), 25% Chinese, and 25% Caucasian baby boy. I wanted him to have a Korean middle name since he was taking my husband's German-ish last name. I asked my father for a Korean boy name, so he chose Dae-han. My husband was responsible for our son's first name, but he came up blank so he decided to make Dae-han the first name. Well, our son's first week proved what a lifetime of grief it would bring if we kept that as his first name. As soon as we told people our baby's name, it was "How do you spell that?" "Is it a boy or a girl?" One woman put an apostrophe where the hyphen was supposed to be. The pediatrician asked, "How do you say his name? Die Hand?" After that, I came home and begged my husband to give our son an American first name (my parents already insisted that Dae-han be the middle name). He finally decided on Alek, which is the name of the town in Africa where we worked together. Even though we still have to spell it out for people, it's much easier than Dae-han! Plus, we like that it has special meaning to us. :)

Mary

@Linda, what a great story! i love the name Alek too..

twizzle

I, a hapa Korean, was given a totally Anglo name at birth. In high school, I decided to shed my original middle name, which I didn't much like anyway, and replace it with my mom's Korean maiden name. I loved having a Korean middle name and felt as though I had finally become connected to my Korean roots in some way. Then, when I got married, I took my husband's last name, shed the Korean name, and replaced it with my own WASP-y maiden name. I regret having done this, and often think about submitting the official paperwork to have my Korean name put back. But then I must ask the question: Do I want to drop my father's name, or my husband's? Or, should I just have four names? It gets rather messy on forms.

Thanks for a beautifully written and thought provoking post.

Jennifer

We went through the name thing with our biracial son 9 months ago. I thought my parents would be happy that we wanted to have a Korean name...as the middle name. But my mother asked me to put my maiden name because my dad would be the last one to carry on the family name. I thought DH would have had difficulties with a hyphenated last name. (and being a teacher, those names are so cumbersome in school!)

You know, because I have relatives who either live in Korea or have difficulty speaking English, we had to abandon several first names we LOVED because they wouldn't be able to pronounce it properly. In hindsight, I don't know if that was wrong or not.

bindc

Love the post.

I had a different experience. When I was in 2nd grade, my parents asked me if I wanted to take on an American name. My younger brother and sister were given American names because they were born in the US while my older sister and I had Korean names b/c we were born in Korea.

I mulled it over and decided that I wanted to be Daisy (I was really into the Dukes of Hazard at the time, ha!!). I tried it out for a few weeks but neither my friends, my family, nor I could deal with it. It was too arbitrary and fake. In retrospect, I'm glad it didn't stick.

My kids both have American names but for nostalgia and tradition, we gave them full Korean names. It works for us.

JT

what a wonderful post. I'm half Korean, raised in America and I've always been so sad that I don't have a Korean name. I tried different ones out but my mother wasn't very willing to help. And being in the time before finding names was as easy as googling "Korean names" I eventually gave up. I resigned myself to joking with my mother that my new Korean name was Konjoo. 15 years later my husband occassionally calls me by my "Korean name". When I had my daughter I decided that I wanted to give her a Korean name. My mother was reluctant to help at first but had a sudden change of heart. We bounced different names around like Sarang. I had mentioned naming the baby after my mother's mother who died years ago, but my mom didn't like that at all. When I gave birth my mom was there with my husband and I. He turned to her and asked her if she would like to give our daughter her Korean name. She was choked up with emotion and decided to give her the name EunAe and said she was God's Grace. She tried to make the nickname "Grace" stick but why have a Korean middle name only to use the American meaning? And I'm glad it didn't. My 3 y/o daughter has 2 BFF's, one is named Grace and the other is Gracie. We since had a son who is 9 mos and I'm still hung up over his Korean name. Obviously, it won't be on his birth certificate. My mother again seemed reluctant to help pick something out. And I haven't had anything really jump out at me. Although I love Taewon. If we end up having another child I think I will give them Korean names as first names. I like JaeSon and JiEun. Why not just use JaeSon for my boy? Because we're a family of all J names and I have to save the good ones should we have anymore kids. haha

Betty

My mom had the same reaction when I said we'd like for her and dad to come up with a korean middle name..."why would you do something like that? we live in america now." dumfounded, it took me awhile to process it and then later convinced her and my dad to come up with a korean name. it helps to reflect both sides of our baby's heritage...and we think Heidi Yera sounds pretty cute too.

Alexis

This is such a good post. I hope you don't mind if I link it in my own blog? It rings so true. As a child (I'm a Korean adoptee, BTW^^), I always wondered about my name. I knew I had a Korean name, but I was glad my parents had given me a western name, so I could blend in with people around me. However, now that I'm older, I can't help but think that my name being changed, changed me and my identity...

My parents gave me "Lee" (my Korean surname) as my middle name. And I'm now actually very glad they did...

Elisa Camahort Page

Hi Shinyung. We loved this post so much we named it "BlogHer of the Week"
http://www.blogher.com/blogher-week-shinyung-kimchi-mamas

We'll be staying tuned to see what name you decide on!

Elisa Camahort Page, BlogHer

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